Stephan Maus - ouroboros@social.stephanmaus.de

Stephan Maus

ouroboros@social.stephanmaus.de

Writer & Journalist (staff reporter @ "stern"-magazine, a German weekly)

Location:: Germany

Gender:: Male

Homepage:: www.stephanmaus.de

Stephan Maus

Mon, 16 Apr 2018 12:46:11 +0200

Der Jakobsweg ist das Facebook unter den Wanderwegen.
#sudelblätter

Andic

Wed, 18 Apr 2018 11:41:26 +0200

Besteht "Der Jakobsweg" nicht aus vielen einzelnen Wegen.
Also ist er nicht eigentlich ein Weg wie das #Fediverse?

Stephan Maus

Mon, 16 Apr 2018 11:49:11 +0200 last edited: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 12:14:16 +0200

Actually, I don’t want the noisy Facebook-crowd here in my beautiful little beach-café in the #Fediverse. Let them stay in Disneyland.

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Marshall Sutherland

Mon, 16 Apr 2018 13:23:23 +0200

I remember when we used to say the same thing about America Online users getting access to the rest of the Internet.

hEARt PhoniX

Mon, 16 Apr 2018 13:49:36 +0200

Ingo Juergensmann

Mon, 16 Apr 2018 14:07:31 +0200

That's just an urban legend...

Twitter > Hubzilla

Stephan Maus

Thu, 12 Apr 2018 17:22:49 +0200 last edited: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 17:50:35 +0200

Wait? You connect with
https://twitrss.me/
to a "Twitter"-account, transform the stream into RSS and follow the account with #hubzilla? No algorithm? No tracking? Pure information? Hahaha! - Okay, cool, and now: Same for Facebook please!

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hEARt PhoniX

Thu, 12 Apr 2018 22:17:35 +0200 last edited: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 22:33:57 +0200

Stephan Maus

Thu, 12 Apr 2018 22:41:07 +0200

Oh, I think I'll have to study a little bit more the #Hubzilla - story. - For the moment, I'm very happy to have such a wonderful tool which can aggregate non-hierachical information (RSS) and allows to communicate with the #fediverse.

Fri, 13 Apr 2018 15:05:27 +0200

Noch gibt es Scripte für Twitter und Facebook-Seiten, die einem auch Feeds generieren. Bei Twitter ist halt fraglich, ob die Sachen nach Juni noch funktionieren.

Stephan Maus

Fri, 13 Apr 2018 18:09:47 +0200

@Carsten Herkenhoff Was passiert im Juni?

Sat, 14 Apr 2018 10:28:51 +0200

Twitter ändert seine API, was zumindest externe Anbieter von Twitter-Apps vor das Problem stellt, dass sie die Timeline nicht mehr wie gewohnt reinkriegen und keine Push-Nachrichten erstellen können. Und dann wäre die Frage, ob derartige Apps überhaupt noch funzen und ob und wie schnell sie angepasst werden können. Das ding ist: Für einige Leute mit Handicaps, z.B. Blinde, gibt es nur externe Apps, mit denen sie Twitter benutzen können.

hEARt PhoniX

Sat, 14 Apr 2018 11:30:03 +0200

Sophie

Sat, 14 Apr 2018 12:00:51 +0200

@h.ear.t | tobias Ein Freund von mir hat es ausprobiert. Er hat eine Sehbehinderung, er sieht ca. 10% von dem was wir sehen. Er fand Hubzilla total nutzbar, weil es viel Kontrast hat und beim Vergrößern (Zoomfaktor heißt das in Firefox) auf die mobile Version wechselt.

Ralph "Hamiller" Schäfer

Sat, 14 Apr 2018 13:42:58 +0200 from Friendica

Ich bin ja jetzt nicht so im Thema, aber es gibt doch zumindest für den Desktop Screenreader-Programme. Damit könnte man sich doch den Inhalt des Web-Frontends von Twitter vorlesen lassen. Das sollte wenigstens schon mal die Zeit überbrücken, bis die externen Apps angepasst sind.

Sat, 14 Apr 2018 22:23:46 +0200

Ich bin auch nicht im Thema, aber der Niels @meerschweinchen83@social.stopwatchingus-heidelberg.de hat, wenn ich das richtig verstanden habe, Erfahrung, wie gut man als Blinder Twitter und Gnu Social nutzen kann. Seinen GS-Kanal hat er in Twidere eingefügt bekommen samt neuer Server-Adresse, aber das ist noch nicht ganz optimal. Stimmt das soweit? Falls das überhaupt zu Niels überkommt.

Hier war die Frage, wie gut die Oberfläche von Hubzilla, einer anderen Software für soziales Netzwerken, mit dem man sich aber zu GS verbinden kann, für Blinde benutzbar ist. Die Frage wäre, wie geht das denn überhaupt und wo gibt es Probleme.

Problems with connection to Mastodon

Stephan Maus

Tue, 03 Apr 2018 10:49:02 +0200

!Hubzilla Support Forum Good morning Hubzilla-People!

When I'm trying to connect to a #mastodon - user, I get the error-message "channel dicovery failed". This is very strange because several days ago, I succeeded in connecting to some mastodon-users and I see them in my connection-list (although I don't really know if I still see their posts).

Do you have any idea what happened?

Best,
Stephan

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DigiTrötlon 💻

Tue, 03 Apr 2018 10:54:07 +0200

@ouroboros I've been experiencing this for ages!

Stephan Maus

Tue, 03 Apr 2018 10:57:34 +0200

Where, "Trötlon"? On #Hubzilla?

Mike Macgirvin

Tue, 03 Apr 2018 11:58:57 +0200

The most important bit is to visit settings/featured and turn on any external protocols you wish to use, for instance OStatus, Diaspora and ActivityPub. You'll need ActivityPub for Mastodon. These protocols are optional plugins and aren't installed on every site. Next, for Mastodon over ActivityPub you will need to use the URL of the connection like https://mastodon.something/users/Foobar . For most other protocols the connection address will look like foobar@some.thing

Stephan Maus

Tue, 03 Apr 2018 12:08:03 +0200

Thank you, @Mike Macgirvin ! Works now! Phantastic!

Tue, 03 Apr 2018 14:06:56 +0200

I still have this problem with some, not all mastodon instances. At least I can connect with users over there, when they conntact me.

Stephan Maus

Tue, 03 Apr 2018 18:38:12 +0200

@Mike Macgirvin Actually, the connection to #Mastodon still doesn't work. I activated the Plug-In "PubCrawl. An unapologetically non-compliant ActivityPub Protocol implemention" but I don't see any #mastodon-posts in my timeline. Is there perhaps any other PlugIn to activate?

Tue, 03 Apr 2018 18:49:09 +0200

I have the same problem. Posts written by my ActivityPub connections don't show up in my timeline but in the public stream.

Stephan Maus

Tue, 03 Apr 2018 20:00:48 +0200

You're right, @Julian Schweinsberg , same with me. I see some #Mastodon posts in my public feed but not in my timeline. Strange. (the contacts show up in my "connection" - section)

Mike Macgirvin

Wed, 04 Apr 2018 07:50:50 +0200

This is still on my to-do list but I've been wrestling OAuth2 most of the day. I also don't use Mastodon or ActivityPub so I might have to build up a test environment again. I remember Mastodon has an awkward connection process and a connection request doesn't mean anything until it has been approved on both sides. We may be forced by the protocol to withhold permissions until it is accepted. (I really don't remember the nitty details of this process and need to look at the code again). If this is the case and the Mastodon person has approved the connection I don't know what might have changed because this has all been working well for about 8-9 months.

Stephan Maus

Wed, 04 Apr 2018 08:06:24 +0200

Thanks, @Mike Macgirvin ! Just to give you some information about my (newbie) - experience: for the moment, I can't connect my timeline to #mastodon, #pleroma & #postactive. - Mastodon is special here: I see added contacts in my "connections" & "public stream" but not in my timeline. If I want to connect pleroma- or postactive-users, i get error-messages during connection process ("channel discovery failed").

Mike Macgirvin

Wed, 04 Apr 2018 08:46:28 +0200

Good news and bad news...

First the good news. Mastodon is working just fine for me.

Now for the bad news. Mastodon is working just fine for me. So I don't know what to fix.

Have a look at your connection's permission settings (Connection -> edit one) and make sure they have permission to "send their channel stream and posts". This should be automatic but since some other folks were having permissions issues earlier that's worth double checking.

I know about Pleroma. They're working on fixing a signature bug last I heard (about 12 hours ago). When we do get this working you'll need to run dev code because they use a weird public key format we weren't accounting for.

postActiv has always worked for me using the GNU-Social protocol. Make sure that's turned on.

Wed, 04 Apr 2018 10:00:10 +0200

Good morning! Could this be a problem that has only to do with mastodon? I couldn't connect to an account on mastodon.xyz yesterday, but I actually could this morning without changing anything on my site.

Stephan Maus

Wed, 04 Apr 2018 10:23:24 +0200

Do you see the #mastodon-posts in your timeline?

Stephan Maus

Wed, 04 Apr 2018 11:03:17 +0200

Interesting: I connected with my own #mastodon-account and precised the #ActivityPub - protocol in the beginning of the connection-demand ([activitypub]https://social.tchncs.de/@stephanmaus). - Then, on Mastodon, I followed back my freshly connected #Hubzilla-Account (ouroboros@social.stephanmaus.de). - And finally, on #Hubzilla, I approved the pending connection-demand from my mastodon-account. And after these 3 steps, I get my freshly posted #mastodon-test-messages in my #Hubzilla-timeline. Problem solved. Now, I know why I called myself "OUROBOROS". Thank you very much, @Mike Macgirvin !

Mike Macgirvin

Wed, 04 Apr 2018 11:06:32 +0200

Since I can't find a problem I'm a bit hesitant to make guesses as to the source of the problem.

elmussol

Wed, 04 Apr 2018 11:11:20 +0200

The Worm Ouroboros -- E. R. Eddison

#gutenberg

Mario Vavti

Wed, 04 Apr 2018 11:19:57 +0200

@Stephan Maus it's safer to use [activitypub]https://social.tchncs.de/users/stephanmaus instead of [activitypub]https://social.tchncs.de/@stephanmaus

Stephan Maus

Wed, 04 Apr 2018 11:24:33 +0200

@Mario Vavti Okay, cool, I'll use it. Thank you! (Why is it safter, btw?)

Mario Vavti

Wed, 04 Apr 2018 11:45:13 +0200

I just got better results that way during my testing.

Wed, 04 Apr 2018 12:59:01 +0200

I have rome from social.tchncs.de in my timeline. The rest I follow wasn't posting anything so far, I think.

Stephan Maus

Wed, 04 Apr 2018 16:34:36 +0200

@Mike Macgirvin I just didn’t know that a Mastodon-user has to follow me back if I want to read his/her posts in my timeline. Otherwise he/she only appears in my „public stream".

Wed, 04 Apr 2018 16:43:34 +0200

That's not the case. I can read rome in my timeline, although he's not following me.

Stephan Maus

Wed, 04 Apr 2018 17:10:00 +0200

Mysteries of #Fediverse.

giac hellvecio

Wed, 04 Apr 2018 17:31:35 +0200

in truth I have always had some problems with the federation with gnusocial and mastodon, sometimes it works, others not ....Mike always does miracles (for federating), but on the other hand/side they often "destroy" these miracles.

there is no comparison with the-federation (the federation using diaspora protocol), that works much better, more stable.

Wed, 04 Apr 2018 17:49:02 +0200

Very interesting. It works for me if the other person follows back... or something like that.

Wed, 04 Apr 2018 18:42:37 +0200

Derartige Installationen auf Shared Hostern sind halt auch immer so eine Sache. GS ist bei mir langsam aber sicher sehr lahm geworden. Friendica dagegen ist am schnellsten bislang und es lässt sich auch so einfach wie WordPress installieren.

Stephan Maus

Tue, 03 Apr 2018 07:37:01 +0200

#Fediverse is like the universe: don't ask how it works.
#sudelblätter

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Haakon Meland Eriksen (Parlementum)

Tue, 03 Apr 2018 07:52:09 +0200

Question everything, please. However, the important thing is to enjoy both the Fediverse and the Universe, preferably in reverse order.

#curiouser and curiouser

Stephan Maus

Tue, 03 Apr 2018 10:08:57 +0200

Okay, thanks, @Haakon Meland Eriksen (Parlementum) ! I was wondering, what EXACTLY I see in the "public stream".

Artim

Tue, 03 Apr 2018 10:51:07 +0200 from Diaspora

Federation is kinda sorta like email. It's not all centralized on one universal server, but many! Thousands! There's no one universal all-controlling "center."

Mike Macgirvin

Tue, 03 Apr 2018 12:06:21 +0200

I was wondering, what EXACTLY I see in the "public stream".

That depends on what your site administrator wants you to see there. Some only allow public posts that originate on this site. Some allow you to see any public posts in the network. This will include all public posts on this site, all incoming public posts from other networks/protocols, and a random sampling of public posts from elsewhere in the Hubzilla universe. A number of sites turn this off completely as the content is unmoderated and could be illegal in some jurisdictions.

Stephan Maus

Tue, 03 Apr 2018 12:13:48 +0200

I see, thank you! As I am the admin and the only user, I am the only one who will ever see my public stream, right? So, I don’t have to bother about illegal content.

Stephan Maus

Tue, 03 Apr 2018 12:18:24 +0200

So happy to see you, @href ! - J'ai un peu mauvaise conscience d'etre ici et pas sur soc.ialis.me. Mais j'ai toujours revé d'avoir une propre instance.

Mike Macgirvin

Tue, 03 Apr 2018 12:21:21 +0200

Not necessarily. You might want to tick the box to only allow authenticated viewers, or else this will be open to the public. See admin/site. There are a few public stream settings. Authenticated viewers also includes remote auth viewers from other hubzilla sites. You may want a setting to restrict this to only local logins but nobody has done this yet.